Specifying Paint

I can host a video here on the 4specs server - probably an mp4 format would be easiest. Can arrange to have it streamed or download so you can keep a copy.

Thanks, Colin. Hadn’t thought of that, either. It would simplify things, because we’re not set up to do that on our website, which has already taken up too much time recently in updates and other issues. Either way, we’d probably have to get participants’ permission to put it online.

Bob, the matrix my reps make together is available to all our local specifiers. I can email you a copy for your chapter presentation’s use. (Post your email address if you like, but I can find you in the CSI directory.)

The one I used by an owner is probably not something I can share, but I’ll genericize it a little so you can see the concept.

Since we have aggressive VOC limits here in California, your local reps may be recommending other products for standard installations without green goals. In other words, don’t just use it as I send it. It would make an excellent starting point for your local “golden rep” team to use to make one for your chapter or region, though.

As for 3, 4 and 5 on your original question list, I spec paint for which I have excellent representation and available at the project location, which means I have a California-only company I spec regularly, and a western-US company that’s in nearly all my specs. I only sole-source upon specific request by an owner (not usually an architect, who has probably chosen by color, not formula, sad to say).

And I name at least the topcoat for each manufacturer’s line, unless I have a compelling reason not to. I find that far preferable to MPI numbers. I’m happy in most circumstances to let the manufacturer and painter recommend the primer for the substrate and the topcoat. The matrix in the specs concept would make naming the primer much easier, but I am still on the fence about this. The fact that most of my work is privately funded trusted-GC work affects this practice powerfully; I am much more likely to control all the elements if I know the painters will be the lowest bidders.

I hope your presentation does get recorded - I’d be interested to see what you all come up with!

Thanks again, Vivian. I’d really like to have a copy of your paint matrix, and hope it can serve as an example and an inspiration for our own version. My email address is rewoodburn@ymail.com. (If anyone else has a similar document, list or other resource that might help, and that you’re willing and able to share, I’d like to see that too.)

Bob - Regarding getting permission from participants, it should be sufficient to put a sign by the entry to the room and to make an announcement. You do not have to get a written release.

Another good idea. I’ve seen those signs in the past (and words to that effect in the fine print on tickets). We should do that, though I was originally thinking mainly of presenters or panel members, with whom we should clear it in advance. Reps especially may have some corporate restrictions or sensitivities to navigate…

CSI’s Specifying Practice Group did two sessions on specifying paint last year with guest presenter Kent Kile, CSI, CCPR. Recordings on YouTube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrbQrK6aaW0&list=PL1C96ECBA6E9D457A&index=60

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXM670HYCpI&index=62&list=PL1C96ECBA6E9D457A