Any suggestions on where to put the specialty metal panels/railing systems that are intended for rodeo arenas (to help direct the animals in and out of the arena)? Would you include them in 0552xx somewhere as a metal railing?
How about horse stalls? Somewhere around 131900 as a variation of a kennel?
IMHO
I ageee with the Div 13 for stalls etc. the “fencing” could be in a number of places but as it’s not decorative or “site” related 05 seems safest.
Iv’e done a lot of pig and cow things - all in Division 13. I think there is a link there for veterinary equipment. (I even did a weight scale for sea lions. it had a very shallow ramp leading up to it so they could walk up and weigh themselves.)
131923–Pig and Cow Things ?
I’ve done pig and cow things, too. And used 13 19xx. Nothing as exotic as a sea lion scale, but “bovine” and “swine” containment apparatus.
Lynn, I had a consulting client for a while that specialized in zoos. they had the coolest stuff on their projects…real rocks, fake rocks, fake seaweed; prematurely weathered buildings (to look like ruins for the penguins); scales to haul critters out of the water; feeding troughs for giraffes, 6" thick glazing plastic to enlose underwater viewing areas… I loved it. plus those questions: how do you weigh a sea lion? where does a tiger like to sleep? what type of commercial kitchen do you need to fix food for frogs? how strong does a fence have to be to hold in an angry elephant? (that almost sounds like the set up to a joke..)
Anne, that’s fascinating. The closest I can get to that (and it’s not very close) was before I started writing specs. I was a designer for a company that manufactured fake rock and created zoo exhibits, museum exhibits, and miniature golf courses (the ones with rocks and waterfalls, not windmills). They also did atria in hotels, sometimes complete with ducks in ponds. (One miniature golf course was in Estes Park, CO; I think it’s still there)
I’ve worked on several projects at the National Zoo in Washington, as a project architect and as a specifier.
Things liked gunited rocks were done by the Zoo staff. We dealt more with architectural issues, like 1-1/4" thick laminated glass for the gorillas and orangutans. In the 30+ years since the Great Ape House was completed, the glass has remained intact from animal impacts–but during design, we received a 12" square sample of the glass that arrived broken–by the post office. The office kept for years, a letter from Dow Corning stating that their silicone glazing sealant would not be affected by gorilla urine.
Food? The Reptile House had bags of frozen mice, for the snakes. And the Small Mammals Building had Purina Monkey Chow–Scout’s honor.
One of the projects the firm did (the fake rock one) was for a museum that wanted to duplicate a glacial cave for an exhibit. The firm sent a team to the actual cave and created latex molds that were used to form the gunite exhibit cave.
They also did the lion exhibit at the Milwaukee County zoo, creating a very real-looking wilderness area - caves, rocks for climbing, pools, etc. In the orangutan exhibits, even the trees were gunite; orangutans are strong enough to destroy a real tree easily.
It’s a different part of the built environment to work in. Did you know there’s artificial thatch for roofs?
Y’all have had way too much fun. My first design project (design-build actually, as I was designer, GC, carpentry contractor, and day laborer) was a two-stall horse barn, complete with cupola and cross-buck doors. Learned to not use PTW around creatures, and learned to point the stall doors to the southeast so the stalls would warm up on cold mornings and protect from prevailing westerly winds.
you know, I always wondered how the Swiss Family Robinson Tree House passed fire code – must be the artificial thatch.
Disney would have insisted on it…
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