I know this is going to get me in trouble, but I just can’t help myself:
When the posts from down south start sounding so blue,
We know that nap time there is far past due.
Though Michael and Steve try lightening the discussions,
Times such as these yield glum repercussions.
But be brave 4spec-ers, keep battling the boring
And soon you may hear some Miami-style snoring.
Dave,
Jerome - Laundry drying in the sun has many benefits:
I have been line drying my clothes for decades. While I have the benefit of southern californian heat most of the year, I am even able to line dry my clothes during our rainy season. And in freezing zones, line drying can still be used most of the time.
It is one of the most practical of green building techniques.
Stimulated by this discussion, I have submitted a proposal to MasterFormat to change name of Section 10 28 23.16 Clothes Drying Racks to include “and Lines”
Michael, what does your last post have to do with Dave’s original query? Perhaps you should start a new post. For many of us who live in communities governed by HOA’s, your argument holds no chance of approval, I served on the ARB for my HOA for 15 years, clothes lines are not allowed in the by-laws. Those who have tried to challenge them have failed.
On a personal note Michael, you are insane, just my opinon.
David, just when I started respecting your posts, you have to show your true colors, I have a 5 letter word for you David, starts with p, rhymes with trick…
I apologize to anyone that I offended with my replies to David’s inquiry about replacing soffits.
While intended to be lighthearted, my ideas were also a prod to encourage fresh thinking and may have crossed the line of what is appropriate on this site.
It appears that it is time for Mr. Lazar to take a break from reading / posting, especially in the middle of the night. And, name calling should not be allowed on this discussion, or any other, thread. Please delete post No. 1654.
Jerome: You are right in my case. Doggerel verse is never in good taste. I offer my apologies and hope you will not stop posting. Even though we have our dust-ups you are a brother to all specifiers, and I respect your knowledge.
I have not heard of DensGlass Silver, so I spent the last 20 minutes trying to compare it to DensGlass Gold. My work has been strictly non-residential and DensGass Silver seems to be marketed to residential projects because they call it “Residential Structural Wall Sheathing”:
http://sweets.construction.com/swts_content_files/1090/E830585.pdf
Comparing is difficult because I never found a web place where G-P provides a data spreadsheet with apples to apples test data for both. But by comparing the separate product data sheets there are some differences. Silver has a different facing because it is not completely non-combustible like Gold is. Silver notes flame spread/smoke developed of 15/5 referencing ASTM E 84 and ULC S102 while Gold notes 0/0. The R values are intangibly different as well.
I would want to have my local G-P tech rep walk me through the differences before a jumped ship from DensGlass Gold, but I assume these differences come down to price. Silver, marketed to the residential market is different from Gold in ways that allow it to be sold for a lower cost.
Ron Geren gave good advice at the top of this thread regarding a good remedial approach. An exterior mat-faced gypsum product with an EIFS finish coat sound like the correct approach. I would only add the need to be sure that you ventilate every void space in the framing. Perimeter vents will do no good if blocking or cross framing creates void spaces that the vents won’t reach.
If the extra depth isn’t an issue you could add sleeper cross framing perpendicular to the existing framing so that the gap between the sleepers allowed air to pass between all of the framing voids.
Dave, the original poster, sounds as if he is doing some research to assist the condo HOA. What isn’t clear is if this will be put out to bids by General Contractors to replace all of the soffits in one go or if this would be a one unit at a time fix done by Condo staff or by a one pickup truck small Contractor. The professional level and competence of the installers would inform the selection of repair procedure. Also, if this is an 8 unit complex or an 800 unit complex.
I live within 15 miles of the horrendous 2015 balcony collapse in Berkeley, so prompt attention to this issue is prudent and appropriate. Prepare a Power Point presentation of the Berkeley story to play before any value engineering meetings.
Georgia Pacific DensGlass Silver is no longer in production. It was some goofy product with paper face on one side and glass fiber on the other.
I recommend Georgia Pacific DensArmor Plus with a skim coat.
I would argue for the DensGlass Gold or some similar sheathing product. The DensArmor Plus is really more of an interior product.
Dave, what ever you use, please make sure you review the warranty carefully for your application. Some of the newer materials have limitations. Has anyone mentioned HardieBoard, I recently specified it for soffits on a resort in Barbados, CM had been involved in several previous results all thru the Caribbean and swears that Fiber Cement Board holds up better than any other material. Swiss Pearl and Nichia manu some nifty panels, which I am sure you are familiar with.
David, I had to look up “doggerel”, learn something every day on 4specs. Apology accepted, as I said its been a difficult week, I too apologize, after 54 days hospitalized, my daughter has been re-diagnosed with the same disease she had 53 days ago, which means at least another 28 days in hospital. Could be longer since she blew an embolism today, hell (sorry “User”) my wife had cancer and was never hospitalized for thatlong continuously, so much for modern medicine. Somehow my daughter got re-infected, and although her doctors said the bacteria was gone, well they were wrong. We can all be wrong, but these doctors are making a habit of it, time to rattle some cages tomorrow. Could be worse, a client and friend’s daughter has a form of MRSA that may require amputation, scary bacteria out there.
Hey unregistered “User”, middle of the night for you is not the same for me, I don’t see hours of operation posted by Colin, perhaps you should show yourself instead of hiding your name and your real intent. As far as my derogatory comment I’ve been called much worse in this industry, I would never use the actual word, but since David used the rhyme format I decided to follow through. “User”, I will accept Colin deleting my post as long as he deletes yours. I understand there are reasons to post anon, but you haven’t even registered on this board, why should you be allowed to post in the first place.
Dave, perhaps you should take this opportunity to create an iconic building, similar to what Yaacov Agam did during the Miami Vice era on the Villa Regina Condo. A client is on the ARB for the condo, they recently repainted the building and worked hard to restore the original rainbow of colors. http://www.miamicondoinvestments.com/villa-regina/brickells-villa-regina-known-for-its-yaacov-agam-rainbow-facade-is-redoing-its-lobby
Hey “User” don’t bother checking out the link, I expect Miami Vice was too risqu for your taste, but that era brought some interesting architecture to Miami.
Michael, thanks for the call, I rescind my “insane” remark, you are definitely not insane, a little “out there” perhaps, now that I know you are from LA, your posts are self-explanatory.
Jerome,
Thank you for your understanding. I am praying for the improved health of your daughter. In the meantime, you must rest when you can. You can’t help her if you are utterly exhausted.
David, being diabetic, there is no way to work until I am utterly exhausted, my body won’t let me, I sleep several times a day (studio is at home), when I am tired, longer than cat naps, but enough for me to recharge and start back again, perhaps not the healthiest routine, but it works for me and I’ve been following the same routine for over ten years. My Cardiologist of 25 years approves, of course he would like me to lose 25 lbs…but that is another story.
Well, whatever works. I think Buckminster Fuller and Thomas Edison, among others, had a similar sleep regimen.
