Never heard of ASTM

This is for a very specific type of common miscellaneous metal fabrication using A36 angles, plates, and bars. We usually rely on the shop drawings to indicate compliance with specified loads based on ANSI standards for the fabrication since that already states the particulars.

This fabricator claimed compliance with the ANSI standard but then asked what ASTM was. Not sure how that works until we found out that their back-of-house people knew what they’re doing and just weren’t sharing it with management or sales.

I thought that communicating with Architects could be challenging sometimes. This was a whole new experience.

My guess is that such a shop would be unable to buy items that were not manufactured to ASTM A36 standards.

What would be interesting is a deeper dive into the QC documentation from the steel mill indicating whether or not anything ever slipped through that did not meet the ASTM A36 specification.

I agree. That’s why I was flabbergasted (see original post).

The procurement people sounded pretty upset that the question was ever raised by their own sales force and that management was as clueless. Introducing left hand to right hand.

Ken,

Very good thread here. I really like your line “communicating with Architects could be challenging sometimes. This was a whole new experience.”

There’s an expression abbreviated as HIA that applies fo the sales force.