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“Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool.”

Getting back to this thread, I’m just a couple months behind. I agree with Doug and carrying this farther by deleting the References article. Why do we need this summary if the references are specified in Part 2?

In this day and age of “Lean and Green” why waste paper?

If the General Conditions and Division 1 have been properly coordinated there should be no legal basis of a claim from the sub due to a lack of references to Division 1 sections. Thus these reference are not needed.

If your person handling CA is not familiar with the role and contents of Division 1, I think you have a larger problem.

If you use these magic phrases in the architectural sections should they not also be in the sections generated by your consultants? Given the current level of coordination of specifications I expect that this would cause difficulties.

Sometimes I am requested to make special references to some new and special thing that is dear to the heart of the person making the request. Think of the cars of the '50’s that would have a chrome script on the fender announcing “air conditioned”. That went away when they all had it.

Lately I have been asked by a sustainable design consultant to add references to the Submittals and Quality Assurance articles that go beyond what I previously included even for LEED projects. This is really obvious on some “little” Sections like “Wallcovering”. My previous Section template worked out to about 5 pages. Now it is at 7 pages for that project, with 2 of them just about green issues.

The interesting thing is how many sustainable design issues and criteria will evolve into industry standards, and like the “air conditioned” tag on the car, will disappear from the specs except for a quick reference to an ASTM or some such standard.

when the sustainable design consultant stamps the drawings and specs – or even better – prepares them, then you can take their requests seriously.
we see the same thing from the elevator consultant who turns a 25 page spec into 72 pages; the fabric people who add three pages of stuff that only they care about, and the roofing consultant who specifies the fasteners.