# Vision Lite with Sliding Glass Panel

**URL:** <https://forum.4specs.com/t/vision-lite-with-sliding-glass-panel/2177>\
**Category:** Archive - Product Discussions #5\
**Created:** [December 7, 2012, 3:06pm UTC](https://forum.4specs.com/t/vision-lite-with-sliding-glass-panel/2177 "2012-12-07T15:06:05Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 7\
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**Author:** ![john\_regener](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a5b964/32.png) [@john\_regener](https://forum.4specs.com/u/john_regener)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2012, 3:06pm UTC](https://forum.4specs.com/t/vision-lite-with-sliding-glass-panel/2177/1 "2012-12-07T15:06:05Z")

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I have a project that shows a vision lite in an interior, non-rated door with a sliding glass panel. I have not been able to find such a product in the catalogs of manufacturers usually identified.

Any suggestions of manufacturer and product?

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**Author:** ![George\_Everding](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex047/user_avatar/forum.4specs.com/george_everding/32/20_2.png) [@George\_Everding](https://forum.4specs.com/u/George_Everding)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2012, 3:46pm UTC](https://forum.4specs.com/t/vision-lite-with-sliding-glass-panel/2177/2 "2012-12-07T15:46:06Z")

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John-

Like a transaction window - but without the shelf and bullet resistance? C R Laurence might be able to make up something…

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**Author:** ![lynn\_javoroski](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex047/user_avatar/forum.4specs.com/lynn_javoroski/32/188_2.png) [@lynn\_javoroski](https://forum.4specs.com/u/lynn_javoroski)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2012, 4:48pm UTC](https://forum.4specs.com/t/vision-lite-with-sliding-glass-panel/2177/3 "2012-12-07T16:48:59Z")

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Agreed; you can choose the components you need from their catalog.

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**Author:** ![john\_regener](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a5b964/32.png) [@john\_regener](https://forum.4specs.com/u/john_regener)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2012, 9:08am UTC](https://forum.4specs.com/t/vision-lite-with-sliding-glass-panel/2177/4 "2012-12-08T09:08:34Z")

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Thanks.

I checked CRL and found no packaged “transaction window” for a flush steel door. I guess components could be assembled. A typical glazed lite could be modified with CRL components. Afterall, they make everything from shower enclosures, automotive/RV windows and display case components.

It’s another example where the wizardry of spec writing is being called upon to solve a partially-defined problem.

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**Author:** ![sheldon\_wolfe](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex047/user_avatar/forum.4specs.com/sheldon_wolfe/32/197_2.png) [@sheldon\_wolfe](https://forum.4specs.com/u/sheldon_wolfe)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2012, 6:43pm UTC](https://forum.4specs.com/t/vision-lite-with-sliding-glass-panel/2177/5 "2012-12-08T18:43:53Z")

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Is it a rated opening?

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**Author:** ![john\_regener](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a5b964/32.png) [@john\_regener](https://forum.4specs.com/u/john_regener)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2012, 4:22am UTC](https://forum.4specs.com/t/vision-lite-with-sliding-glass-panel/2177/6 "2012-12-09T04:22:41Z")

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As I stated at the beginning, the door is non-rated.

I am going to save this problem for last. Perhaps there will be plancheck comments regarding fire-rating and accessiblity, neither of which the design presently addresses.

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**Author:** ![sheldon\_wolfe](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex047/user_avatar/forum.4specs.com/sheldon_wolfe/32/197_2.png) [@sheldon\_wolfe](https://forum.4specs.com/u/sheldon_wolfe)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2012, 2:30pm UTC](https://forum.4specs.com/t/vision-lite-with-sliding-glass-panel/2177/7 "2012-12-09T14:30:29Z")

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Sorry, missed that. Last week we changed glazing on an opening from glass to 3form. I noted that the opening was rated, so 3form couldn’t be used; apparently, the opening had been changed to non-rated, but the opening schedule had not been updated. It’s always good to ask if an opening is rated before making changes.
