Spacing of Section Numbers

XX XXXX works best for our public projects.

XX XXXX here, with an occassional XX XXXX.XX thrown in for effect.

XX XX XX for all of our projects.

But we do use XX XX XX.XX for file naming only, for variations on the narrowscope sections. (We drop the “.XX” in the hard copy printing)

XXXXXX here exclusively (99%). We do not use .XX. There is enough flexibility in MFO4 to avoid this format, however I have used it sparingly to append forms to the end of a section (RFI Form or Substituion Request Form).

Only one client uses XX XX XX. Use nonbreaking space between pairs of numbers.

Still using xx-xxxx. I know it’s really cool and European to have a lot of blank spaces, but I’d rather know which numbers are connected.

But I have started writing phone numbers like this:
123 456 7890

The bulk of the work in this office is for two major clients, both of which have promulgated their own master guide specs in MF 2004; both use XX XX XX. (One is the DoD’s UFGS system, which numbers some sections in a 10-digit format (XX XX XX.XX XX). And sometimes on these government jobs, Division 01 is in MF 95 while the others are in MF 2004, or vice-versa. The government may furnish the front end in MF2004, our design-build partner asks for the rest in MF95 due to demand from its subs, so we end up with a mix of 5-, 6- and 10-digit numbers.

Personally I think XX XXXX would make most sense, but usually I don’t make the decision.

Still using 12 34 56 in titles, but 123456 in file names.

x x x x x x

Should the spaces in XX XX XX or XX XXXX be ordinary spaces or should they be “hard” spaces to prevent the Section number from breaking at the end of a line?

If a hyphen is used instead of a space, such as XX-XXXX, what sort of hyphen should it be? Again, the concern is the breaking of the Section number at the end of a line. This is probably a matter of the what the word processing program does when the hyphen character is typed.

A non-breaking space or a non-breaking hyphen should be used to keep the number on a single line.

Should be nonbreaking space.
Use SHIFT+CONTROL+SPACE BAR to insert a nonbreaking space.

Nonbreaking space character will show when SHOW/HIDE is on and dissappear when SHOW/HIDE is off but all y’all you know this already.

XX XX XX in Sections
XXXXXX for file names

XX XX XX (and sometimes XX XX XX.XX) in Sections
XXXXX (and sometimes XXXXXX_XX) in filenames

For nonbreaking hyphens in MS Word, you use the CTRL+SHIFT+DASH keys.

ditto of Wayne and guest: XXXXXX, and no .XX

at first it was due to peer pressure, and we tried other ways too in this office because 6 digits all strung together looked long and weird - but surprisingly, not much later, the old XXXXX numbers started to look strangely short when we would encounter them.

it is nice to do it one way and do it consistently, especially if you use any sort of database or other reference to section numbers. We have never had any snags with XXXXXX, and we have with the other methods at times.

Does it bother anyone else that Masterspec level 5 sections do not sort properly because they leave out the decimal? e.g. prep for re-roofing, and several others - they appear at the END of a file folder window.

Yes, it does bother me. I’ve suggested they review/consider a method that would cause them to sort in proper order, but I’m not sure what the impediments to doing that are. Spaces work.

I’ve mentioned it to them too, but I guess they might be backlogged a little.

XX XXXX for section numbers (w/hard space)
XX_XXXX for filing sections

Definitely no 8 digit section numbers.

Ctrl+space bar inserts a hard space in Wordperfect.

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