# Murphy Bed

**URL:** https://forum.4specs.com/t/murphy-bed/2664
**Category:** MasterFormat 2004 Discussions
**Created:** [September 19, 2014, 6:00pm UTC](https://forum.4specs.com/t/murphy-bed/2664 "2014-09-19T18:00:10Z")
**Posts on this page:** 8
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### Author: ![wilsonconsulting](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex047/user_avatar/forum.4specs.com/wilsonconsulting/32/128_2.png) [@wilsonconsulting](https://forum.4specs.com/u/wilsonconsulting)
#### Post date: [September 19, 2014, 6:00pm UTC](https://forum.4specs.com/t/murphy-bed/2664/1 "2014-09-19T18:00:10Z")

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Suggestions on where to specify a “Murphy” bed?

I’m considering 113036 or 125830 titled “Retractable Beds.” Other ideas?

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### Author: ![hollyrob](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex047/user_avatar/forum.4specs.com/hollyrob/32/358_2.png) [@hollyrob](https://forum.4specs.com/u/hollyrob)
#### Post date: [September 19, 2014, 6:15pm UTC](https://forum.4specs.com/t/murphy-bed/2664/2 "2014-09-19T18:15:18Z")

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Back in 2007 I wrote a section for this: SECTION 125830 BUILT-IN BEDS

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### Author: ![lynn\_javoroski](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex047/user_avatar/forum.4specs.com/lynn_javoroski/32/188_2.png) [@lynn\_javoroski](https://forum.4specs.com/u/lynn_javoroski)
#### Post date: [September 23, 2014, 9:54pm UTC](https://forum.4specs.com/t/murphy-bed/2664/3 "2014-09-23T21:54:43Z")

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Division 12 makes more sense to me - it’s furnishings, not equipment.

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### Author: ![jrlbarch](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex047/user_avatar/forum.4specs.com/jrlbarch/32/66_2.png) [@jrlbarch](https://forum.4specs.com/u/jrlbarch)
#### Post date: [August 25, 2021, 2:12pm UTC](https://forum.4specs.com/t/murphy-bed/2664/4 "2021-08-25T14:12:46Z")

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Does anyone have a specification for Murphy Beds that they could share?

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### Author: ![jpjordan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/67e7ee/32.png) [@jpjordan](https://forum.4specs.com/u/jpjordan)
#### Post date: [August 25, 2021, 6:53pm UTC](https://forum.4specs.com/t/murphy-bed/2664/5 "2021-08-25T18:53:51Z")

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Email me at [jpjordan@jordanconsultants.com](mailto:jpjordan@jordanconsultants.com)

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### Author: ![specman](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex047/user_avatar/forum.4specs.com/specman/32/222_2.png) [@specman](https://forum.4specs.com/u/specman)
#### Post date: [August 25, 2021, 7:03pm UTC](https://forum.4specs.com/t/murphy-bed/2664/6 "2021-08-25T19:03:32Z")

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Is that the bed that doesn’t come down when you want it to, or it goes up when it isn’t supposed to?

Oh, I’m sorry, that’s “Murphy’s” bed.

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### Author: ![George\_Everding](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex047/user_avatar/forum.4specs.com/george_everding/32/20_2.png) [@George\_Everding](https://forum.4specs.com/u/George_Everding)
#### Post date: [August 25, 2021, 9:54pm UTC](https://forum.4specs.com/t/murphy-bed/2664/7 "2021-08-25T21:54:26Z")

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Charlie Chaplin in “Returning to the Hotel at the CSI Convention”:

[https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2nx6v8](https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2nx6v8)

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### Author: ![bunzick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a587f6/32.png) [@bunzick](https://forum.4specs.com/u/bunzick)
#### Post date: [August 26, 2021, 7:19pm UTC](https://forum.4specs.com/t/murphy-bed/2664/8 "2021-08-26T19:19:16Z")

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If it’s a specified product, that suggests it is permanently installed, unlike a piece of furniture. If so, and if it’s part of a system of casework in a space, maybe it should be specified as a component or accessory in a casework section. That way the casework fabricator can make sure that the system will properly fit and be coordinated with the casework it’s going into.