# Exterior Wood Entrances and Storefront **URL:** \ **Category:** Archive - Specifications Discussions #3\ **Created:** [June 27, 2007, 1:12am UTC](https://forum.4specs.com/t/exterior-wood-entrances-and-storefront/837 "2007-06-27T01:12:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![sperez](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e79b87/32.png) [@sperez](https://forum.4specs.com/u/sperez)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2007, 1:12am UTC](https://forum.4specs.com/t/exterior-wood-entrances-and-storefront/837/1 "2007-06-27T01:12:04Z")
I am looking for a specification (preferably a performance spec…but if you have a proprietary one, I won’t be too proud to borrow it either) for wood entrances and storefronts. I have a client required to provide this for a historical project located here in the midwest. Lots of cold, rain, and snow in the winter. Your help is much appreciated. Thanks. If you have anything, please send to [sperez@fulcrum-studios.com](mailto:sperez@fulcrum-studios.com). ---
**Author:** ![George\_Everding](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex047/user_avatar/forum.4specs.com/george_everding/32/20_2.png) [@George\_Everding](https://forum.4specs.com/u/George_Everding)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2007, 2:39am UTC](https://forum.4specs.com/t/exterior-wood-entrances-and-storefront/837/2 "2007-06-27T02:39:47Z")
Several years ago, I did a similar storefront project, historic, using MasterSpec’s “Architectural Woodwork” section. Performance was based on AWI. For historic approval, the key will be your detailing, which may rule out standard proprietary systems. ---
**Author:** ![lynn\_javoroski](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex047/user_avatar/forum.4specs.com/lynn_javoroski/32/188_2.png) [@lynn\_javoroski](https://forum.4specs.com/u/lynn_javoroski)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2007, 1:09pm UTC](https://forum.4specs.com/t/exterior-wood-entrances-and-storefront/837/3 "2007-06-27T13:09:33Z")
There’s this: [http://www.fassadenwindows.com/](http://www.fassadenwindows.com/). And I just had someone in the office who surprised me with this topic - Pella? It was just before I left for Baltimore, and I can’t be sure…but I think that’s it. ---
**Author:** ![m2architek](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex047/user_avatar/forum.4specs.com/m2architek/32/131_2.png) [@m2architek](https://forum.4specs.com/u/m2architek)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2007, 1:25pm UTC](https://forum.4specs.com/t/exterior-wood-entrances-and-storefront/837/4 "2007-06-27T13:25:51Z")
Lynn: Interesting enough, this manufacturer is only 10 miles from me. Do you have experience with them? ---
**Author:** ![lynn\_javoroski](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex047/user_avatar/forum.4specs.com/lynn_javoroski/32/188_2.png) [@lynn\_javoroski](https://forum.4specs.com/u/lynn_javoroski)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2007, 2:03pm UTC](https://forum.4specs.com/t/exterior-wood-entrances-and-storefront/837/5 "2007-06-27T14:03:44Z")
Nope, I pulled it off a place called, um, I think, oh yeah, [4specs.com](http://4specs.com)…[Wood-Framed Storefronts and Curtain Walls](http://www.4specs.com/s/08/08-4140.html) - and there’s another one listed, Dynamic, that looks even more interesting. ---
**Author:** ![m2architek](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex047/user_avatar/forum.4specs.com/m2architek/32/131_2.png) [@m2architek](https://forum.4specs.com/u/m2architek)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2007, 2:06pm UTC](https://forum.4specs.com/t/exterior-wood-entrances-and-storefront/837/6 "2007-06-27T14:06:17Z")
ok Lynn, thanks. I am particularly interested in the wood curtain wall system… anyone else have experience with a wood curtain wall system? ---
**Author:** ![Davemetzger](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex047/user_avatar/forum.4specs.com/davemetzger/32/389_2.png) [@Davemetzger](https://forum.4specs.com/u/Davemetzger)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2007, 9:11pm UTC](https://forum.4specs.com/t/exterior-wood-entrances-and-storefront/837/7 "2007-06-27T21:11:03Z")
Try Artistic Doors and Windows, or Duratherm, or Tischler und Sohn–all high-end manufacturers ---
**Author:** ![wdwalkerspecs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/977dab/32.png) [@wdwalkerspecs](https://forum.4specs.com/u/wdwalkerspecs)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2007, 10:07pm UTC](https://forum.4specs.com/t/exterior-wood-entrances-and-storefront/837/8 "2007-06-27T22:07:52Z")
David, I agree. Last year I wtote a Wood Window Wall and Entrances Section around Duratherm. Wood was all African Mahogany with the Sikkens finish. Its installed and looks great. If you or anyone is ever in the Chicago area, go to Ravinia in Highland Park, the summer home of the CSO. The new two story dining pavillion is just to your left as you go thru the gates. I used text from Masterspec, AWI and Duratherm to creat the section. ---
**Author:** ![joconnor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7c8e57/32.png) [@joconnor](https://forum.4specs.com/u/joconnor)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2007, 3:44am UTC](https://forum.4specs.com/t/exterior-wood-entrances-and-storefront/837/9 "2007-06-29T03:44:39Z")
I just wanted to make a note of the difference between a wood entrance or wood window wall that is assembled from ganging standard fixed or operable wood windows together and a timber-glass curtain wall. Timber-glass curtain walls are designed like aluminium-glass curtain wall constructions. A non-load bearing wood faade consists of a timber frame on the inside, the composition of which meets functional and design demands for infillings, glazing, opening elements, insulated wood or metal panels, etc. Each infilling is retained by aluminium clamping profiles on all four sides. Construction components are comprised of laminated timbers for a mullion and transom construction. The timber mullion depths are calculated and designed to meet the span and windload requirements of the project. Timber-glass curtain walls have an extensive history in Europe due to their high thermal performance. Recently, they are becoming more available in North America. Specifying, timber-glass curtain walls is identical to specifying aluminium-glass curtain walls. The bidding and installation process is performed by a local glass and glazing contractor. Best Regards, James O’Connor, CSI, CCPR, CCCA Managing Director Fassaden Windows