# Audio Visual Equipment **URL:** \ **Category:** MasterFormat 2004 Discussions\ **Created:** [October 12, 2007, 4:11pm UTC](https://forum.4specs.com/t/audio-visual-equipment/905 "2007-10-12T16:11:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![David\_Axt](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex047/user_avatar/forum.4specs.com/david_axt/32/24_2.png) [@David\_Axt](https://forum.4specs.com/u/David_Axt)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2007, 4:11pm UTC](https://forum.4specs.com/t/audio-visual-equipment/905/1 "2007-10-12T16:11:51Z")
It looks like the following is missing from MF’04. Projector Mounts TV Brackets and VCR Mounts ---
**Author:** ![specman](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex047/user_avatar/forum.4specs.com/specman/32/222_2.png) [@specman](https://forum.4specs.com/u/specman)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2007, 4:23pm UTC](https://forum.4specs.com/t/audio-visual-equipment/905/2 "2007-10-12T16:23:43Z")
Why doesn’t Section 27 41 23 “Audio-Video Accessories” work? ---
**Author:** ![David\_Axt](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex047/user_avatar/forum.4specs.com/david_axt/32/24_2.png) [@David\_Axt](https://forum.4specs.com/u/David_Axt)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2007, 5:06pm UTC](https://forum.4specs.com/t/audio-visual-equipment/905/3 "2007-10-12T17:06:34Z")
Because I don’t write electrical specs. Colin put them in Section 11 5270 - TV Mounts and Lift Systems, which is not an official MF’04 section but may work. ---
**Author:** ![awhitacre](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex047/user_avatar/forum.4specs.com/awhitacre/32/117_2.png) [@awhitacre](https://forum.4specs.com/u/awhitacre)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2007, 5:12pm UTC](https://forum.4specs.com/t/audio-visual-equipment/905/4 "2007-10-12T17:12:15Z")
its a bracket. why isn’t it just in finish carpentry (with the other shelving hardware); or metal fabrications or some other accessory type section. the wiring is in the wall; the stuff plugs into it, and sits on the bracket. ---
**Author:** ![David\_Axt](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex047/user_avatar/forum.4specs.com/david_axt/32/24_2.png) [@David\_Axt](https://forum.4specs.com/u/David_Axt)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2007, 5:24pm UTC](https://forum.4specs.com/t/audio-visual-equipment/905/5 "2007-10-12T17:24:58Z")
Because the bracket is not attached to any casework. The brackets are not like an under counter keyboard tray or in-desk CPU mount. These brackets are hung from the structural members and penetrate the ceiling. Sometimes the brackets are mounted to directly to the walls. ---
**Author:** ![specman](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex047/user_avatar/forum.4specs.com/specman/32/222_2.png) [@specman](https://forum.4specs.com/u/specman)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2007, 5:25pm UTC](https://forum.4specs.com/t/audio-visual-equipment/905/6 "2007-10-12T17:25:37Z")
Who said that only electrical engineers can write Division 27 sections? ---
**Author:** ![bunzick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a587f6/32.png) [@bunzick](https://forum.4specs.com/u/bunzick)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2007, 5:43pm UTC](https://forum.4specs.com/t/audio-visual-equipment/905/7 "2007-10-12T17:43:07Z")
I agree. I’ll write a section in any division I think is appropriate. ---
**Author:** ![David\_Axt](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex047/user_avatar/forum.4specs.com/david_axt/32/24_2.png) [@David\_Axt](https://forum.4specs.com/u/David_Axt)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2007, 5:53pm UTC](https://forum.4specs.com/t/audio-visual-equipment/905/8 "2007-10-12T17:53:09Z")
Where do you put scoreboards or electronic reader boards? ---
**Author:** ![specman](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex047/user_avatar/forum.4specs.com/specman/32/222_2.png) [@specman](https://forum.4specs.com/u/specman)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2007, 6:00pm UTC](https://forum.4specs.com/t/audio-visual-equipment/905/9 "2007-10-12T18:00:37Z")
Scoreboards: Section 11 66 43 “Interior Scoreboards” or Section 11 68 43 “Exterior Scoreboards” Reader Boards: Section 10 14 63 “Electronic Message Signage” ---
**Author:** ![wilsonconsulting](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex047/user_avatar/forum.4specs.com/wilsonconsulting/32/128_2.png) [@wilsonconsulting](https://forum.4specs.com/u/wilsonconsulting)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2007, 5:43pm UTC](https://forum.4specs.com/t/audio-visual-equipment/905/10 "2007-10-13T17:43:49Z")
I made a category that seems logical in MF04: 11 5220 “Audio-Visual Equipment Accessories.” I have yet to use this actual section because I haven’t had a project w/ more than one or two items, but have used Level 3 sections: 11 5221 “Projector Lifts” 11 5222 “Monitor Supports” (for TV brackets) ---
**Author:** ![davidcombs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7993a0/32.png) [@davidcombs](https://forum.4specs.com/u/davidcombs)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2007, 12:59pm UTC](https://forum.4specs.com/t/audio-visual-equipment/905/11 "2007-10-15T12:59:00Z")
We cover them in 11 52 23. The ‘23’ is derived from 27 41 23 - Audio-Video Accessories. ---
**Author:** ![David\_Axt](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex047/user_avatar/forum.4specs.com/david_axt/32/24_2.png) [@David\_Axt](https://forum.4specs.com/u/David_Axt)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2007, 5:45pm UTC](https://forum.4specs.com/t/audio-visual-equipment/905/12 "2007-10-15T17:45:20Z")
Sounds like a good idea. Thanks. Have you guys suggested this on [www.masterformat.com](http://www.masterformat.com)?